Kali Spell Exposes Reality Programming: Language, Law & the Divine Within

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And today is no exception. I have the amazing Kali Spell of Dark Matters, and we're gonna do a two part podcast, and we're gonna do the first one here on Crystal Water Experience. Then we're gonna hop over to Dark Matters and do discuss the next part

we need to do a podcast. So we're finally doing it. It might be like a hundred part series, who knows? But we should be revealing some stuff that, you know, we are decoding the books and the knowledge out there, but we're also bringing our own divine intuition into this whole thing, which is absolutely critical.

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Festival, didn't I, Jo? But I was like, oh, and I started talking to you and I was like, you blew my, you blew my wig, as they say. So, yeah, no, we've had some really great chats and I'm, I'm, I'm really excited to kind of chat on camera and see where, where our, our crazed minds can, can take us. Let's do it publicly.

Let's, let's get it out though. We were just had a quick chat and I said, how do you want me to introduce you? What, what name? And you gave me a really brilliant story about your, your backstory to your name and how it's changed and why it's changed over that time. So can you ex explain to everybody and put this to bed like she's Michelle, everybody and change her name because she's caval Well, allegedly.

my real name is Jill, by the [: 00:02:00

And as I always say, I don't hide that fact. So I was a fully trained yoga teacher before the planned demic and the first 2020 nonsense. And basically I kind of had that many Facebook profiles, but breach community standards, you know, for telling the truth or certainly my truth. Anyway it's a subjective kind of thing.

So that I kept having to come up with weird, doing more wonderful names, and I was working with a guy called the Barron David Ward, who's sadly passed now, who taught me about commercialized liens. And I was being the admin in his groups. And he taught me all about corporate law and whatnot.

And the difference between common law and varying things. I learned he was a, like a mentor to me. So I became Kali Spell because my yoga business was called Kali Yuga Genesis. Now we're, apparently, we're in the age of the Kali Huga in that age of destruction. Now Kali is the goddess of destruction in time and a lot of the occult decodes that I do yeah, are certainly about time and not fall into linear time.

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So that's kind of it. It kind of just happened organically. And then obviously people would say, go see Kali. Go see Kali, online and whatnot, where I would help people and then it just stuck because I got asked to do live talks which I did up and down the country for many years.

I saw and saw you the carry on camping. That's the first time I saw you. Yeah. And at festivals, please don't take that as that's what I'm like all the time. That's another thing. I like you were fine with a around, but I'm not always like that. I was like, you know, I, I'd be dead. So it's, it's just, you know, I have all kinds of different facets to my personality and certainly Kali Spell is one of them.

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I think this makes a lot of sense to me because we have been trapped in cycles and we're definitely gonna get into that. 'cause we're gonna talk about Sirius Polaris, the sun, the moon, and our feelings and knowledge on that. And it is about moving outta these cyclical timelines where we just get to go through the same wheel again and again, lifetime after lifetime, loopy, loopy loop.

And so, and I think the way that we get outta it is by speaking it, because I'm hoping guys, when as you're listening to this, you'll go. That makes a lot of sense because you feel it in your heart. I don't want, I don't want anybody to go, well, let me just find out what it was in the book. Everybody knows with my PhD I spent ages listening and reading to books, right?

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It's, I think information and misinformation, everything's paradoxically the same. That's how I worked out. Or I'm not saying I've worked today at Christ, that would be very arrogant. But certainly that backdrop and when you understand the information misinformation and you weigh them up against each other, it's energy of either one.

And I think you kind of do need to kind of go down those rabbit holes to a degree, but you don't wanna get stuck in them. You gotta use it as something that reflects back at you and, and then, but that takes a lot of inner work. And I don't mean five D Rainbow Bunny in a work. Like, you know, that kind of five d kind of group of hippies all kind of bang on about it's, we know that shadow work isn't that Bonnie?

What, and that, what do they call it? Like toxic positivity and spiritual bypassing. So, you know that kind of. Digging out your own bullshit really takes a lot of courage and a lot of guts and it's a lot of drooling in corners, isn't it? And mental breakdowns and deprogramming.

And like I say, [: 00:06:00

It's in our DNA, it's in our code. We're never disconnected from source. They just wanna bury it. So deeply down that rabbit hole that you get stuck in Haiti, you get stuck in the dark. Unfortunately, I am here to tell people. That that is written into their system, that is written into their code.

So you may not believe it, but I can, I'm here to guarantee you they more certainly do. And when you decode that and it is a code then it reveals itself and you can't kind of argue with the reveal within yourself and it's ugly, but it's kind of like cool. It's beautiful. I love how you just explained that.

realize is you are not your [: 00:07:00

And then we can argue, but I read this book never, but I've read this book, but I read this book. You have to get rid of these consoles 'cause these are the ones that are holding you back from remembering. And I was really, I was really pleased myself. And that might sound like that, that is for me ago, but I really pleased with myself.

Like earlier this year when we, I was doing, we were doing usual amazing things. Me and Kelly were doing our demonstrations on the stage. And a lady got up and she left. And at the end of the presentation, someone came up to me, she said, we really loved what you do. You, you and Kelly really genuine, and we could see everything that you're doing.

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I didn't do anything else. I said, that's really interesting. So you know what I did? I went back home, thought about it, contacted some friends, and contacted even this lady that I didn't really know on Facebook, but I thought she might know and told her this. And I said, can you explain what that is?

Because I wanted to know. It wasn't a bad reflection of me, right? Anyway, it turned out to be the great overs soul, which means you really quite integrated from, from a good level. See, it wasn't a bad thing, but this, this lady had a, an emotional reaction. And she left. I was like, I need to know because if it's something there that I need to remove, I need to do it.

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And I know it's something that people don't wanna look at. And people will say, oh, Kali, that's clickbait you. It is there and it's right in front of your face. I think you hit on a really important concept about that kind of activity and it's people's perceptions.

And that's what I've kind of got it down to. You know, people can perceive me in a positive light or they can look at me like, mom, I, or people can think they really don't like me. And there's probably gradations in between or doubt, but perception isn't truth. And everyone has their own individual truth as well.

And what it's about merely for me is consciousness without saying to choose them. But we know that narratives move consciousness, which is why, they control the script, hence the term script from the Bible. It plays out and we all have a code as we come through the wheel of time.

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Oh, it's gritty. It's like a rock. One guy might say it like me, ex feels like me, ex-wife, you know, whatever it's gonna be. But at the end of the day, it's still an elephant. And this is what I think people miss, hence why there's so much division, so much, because everyone's arguing with each other.

And as Banana used to say, we're all trying to get to the same place on a different bus. It's consciousness on whatever your story is as long as you're doing it. If you wanna be dark, be dark. If you wanna be good, be good. But whatever your energy is that you're putting into that perception and your truth moves your consciousness higher to that frequency.

Does it really matter what the narrative is? What we all arguing with each other about. And, and I think that's a huge thing in spiritual, well certainly my spiritual development that I thought, oh fuck, you know, you pardon my French Paul. You keep kind of saying, oh, it's all things at all times. And you understand that logically.

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It happens in the heavens before it happens here. So as above, so below and, and that, you know, these are facts that we can track, you know, and a fact is a fact, and you can't argue a fact. And the fact, a fact is different to your individual truth and perception. And, and I, and I do my best to try and make that distinction.

I really love that example. And on a quantum level, when I talk about. Kind of quantum theory, the way that I explain it is imagine you've seen one of those collages where you've got like a picture of Elvis. You think it's a picture of Elvis. But when you zoom in, it is made up of lots of different pictures of something completely random.

well, what is this a picture [: 00:12:00

You have to change it. The orientation or how you gonna put those ladies or the color of those ladies? You can't change this outside. And that's the thing about when people go really. Hold onto a concept too much. You are only at one level. Just see it for what it is. Let it integrate within you and move on to the next bit because you are not done.

Yeah, yeah. No, yeah, I totally agree with that. Our senses in this place. Whatever you think this place is, they are limited to that degree. The eyes of the mind. This is why Jesus was crucified between the two thieves, which are the eyes of, how we perceive reality or, reality isn't real.

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When it's all based on fiction, fraud, fear, deception, because we're in the realm of Lucifer, you know, without kind of going too fruity. But this will all link into the tree of life and the tree of death and whatnot. So the s of Lucifer itself is how our eyes bounce. You know, we create reality and it bounces back to us to see it.

Like just our, you know, I suppose like a, a projector would project, you know, the film onto the screen. You know, we're all in Plato's Cave, unfortunately, staring at the wall thinking that we're free. But we're all, we're all in a dark cave and we've just kind of forgotten. And you know, that just, just that itself really, you know, that refraction of light, you know, Lucifer comes from Luke, you know, that's where you get Luke Skywalker.

Now I, that's why I call my [: 00:14:00

So the dark does indeed matter. Hence why you get, you know, the system trying to just get you to, you know, cleanse your chakras and go do yoga and light a few incense sticks and put your fancy pants on. And you know, you know your spiritual man, you're going for five D Ascension.

It's a deceptive, purposeful trick 'cause they play both sides. Anyway, bang on enough. But that's, the perception of this place, it isn't real. We're creating it. And to get to that point can be very difficult because like you said, Jol, you have to let it all go.

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I think it's, as you'll know with your work, Jo, it's, it's about frequency ultimately. It's what it always bangs back down to. I think. I think you're exactly right there. And, but by frequency, I, I'm really thinking in terms of quantum frequency, which is these very small wavelengths that kind of all knit together.

The way that I like to look at it is imagine you have your own sole blueprint frequency, which isn't just like five to eight hertz, or something like that, right? It's information and coded, and if you're old enough to remember modems, it is more like that, right?

or your biofield. Is full of [: 00:16:00

You've got some girls playing, and it just creates a cacophony of noise where, whereas really, I mean probably each individually, they are in tune. What your job here is to find out what is in tune with you because you are tuned to the harmonics of the creator of this realm and you're tuned to each other.

ich I call the AI artificial [: 00:17:00

Yeah. And you blew my mind with that. Is it Kelly that we met at Grimsby Court as we were kind of indicting the judge. So it's funny how we all come full circle. And Kelly was Charlotte. Charlotte. Charlotte. Yeah. Charlotte, sorry. And Charlotte was water down the toilets.

And that was just early epic at that point. Like to try and relieve that structure, you know, over those buildings. 'cause they actually, as, as I, we've chatted before. You know, they class the ship and the piss running under the buildings, in the toilets as the, the ship being on water. You know, it is, it's such an insidious, silly game.

But you know, it is being revealed. I do believe that the veil is thinning, but I think we, we've all been as a collective ignorant, and then now in this, they know those controlling structures and we'll get into who they are.

you said, these programs are [: 00:18:00

So, I mean, even in computing terms, you know, a background program is called a Damon. D-A-E-M-O-N. So your demons that you put the, this program in and, what chance have we got really when, you know, that's where that term king for a day filled for a lifetime comes from. 'cause you're born a king or queen, a living, you know, a living essence.

And then they register you into that system. Birth you into it, you know, it's all maritime, maritime shipping terms, which is maritime just means sea of time. So we get back into time and kronos again which is what that system worships. But again, when we're possessed by these programs that have been imprinted in us, but also as we kind of incarnate through this wheel of time, we have a set script as well.

ve an astrologer, when I can [: 00:19:00

And you ain't gonna deviate from that script. I found if I try to, I'll get sucked, straight back in. So this place is meant to be decoded. But like I say, when we're birthed into that registration system and Regi just means of the king, then we lose all our inalienable rights.

We lose all the London mineral rights. We, we get benefits and privileges at the state, which is unfortunately why we've got what we've got now because London or the city of Luan to where we're all registered is hell. It's Hades, it's the underworld. So we've got to move out of consumerism. You know, that's why they call us consumers, you know, useless eaters.

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And I don't say that flippantly, but you know, I think we do come down to play to a degree, but I think this game's gone on far too long. It's got far too dark and it's gone far too deep, but it moves in cycles and resets. So, you know, we can deep dive that till the car has come on, but it is ultimately know thyself and what you arguing about.

Once you, when you achieve that balance in, you know, the masculine feminine, you know, the yin and the yang within, then, you know, the king and queen sat on the throne together in unity and Union, which is why, you know, it's a, a real hell, the hell bent on turning men into women, women into men you know, destroying the family unit, making sure that women being injected with male hormones and vice versa.

that's a lot. This is how my [: 00:21:00

'cause people do say I can, I do go off on tangents, but it's just how my brain works. You know, I'm a little asic or let's say six I what I was keeping up with you a hundred percent there. And I, you fully support everything that you're saying. And just to add a little bit to it is. Whilst you can see these things playing out in the 3D, you don't have to say to yourself, oh, well my parents, you know, did my birth certificate now.

So now what do I have to sue to sign out? And things like this, this is all working on an energetic level. Okay? And these things have happened to you without your probably conscious consent, but you've done it or it's been done to you and it hasn't necessarily been done in this lifetime. It can have been done while you were in the womb or in previous lifetimes.

and trying to play with your [: 00:22:00

So it's not defending other people's stuff that they've, you know, the shit that they fed you, you don't need to, that isn't you because we live on a much, we live on a much higher level than that, or much on a deeper level. Whichever way you, you wanna say this, so once you're aware of these things, this, this is why I've noticed with this whole kind of movement as well, since like 2020.

ever I've gone to any event, [: 00:23:00

This is changing and it needs to change faster, guys. And I've done a lot of previous podcasts over the last few weeks and specifically trying to get men on to encourage you to understand the somatic healings and things like this. Because until we have more men removing these blocks, it's gonna be the women that are leading the way.

this is all, again, you are [: 00:24:00

That's something that they tend to do, which is what you are. So, how do you feel about that call? The masculine feminine thing is like a huge thing for me. It not only kind of happening in my own personal life as well, like, you know, with my partner, like we've kind of come so far with our inner work.

Yeah. But there, there's always hurdles and I find the, you know, and this is no disrespect to men. I love men. I love them. And especially the ones doing the works, showing up, being good men, in a time like this now, it's so easy to not be, and I think it is harder for men to kind of, with those struggles just by our natures, you know, the women are the cups, aren't we?

We, we are web thing 'cause we, you know, we, we are the queen on the chess board. Ultimately we can move all around the board. The queen is the most powerful player in chess on a cosmic chess board mathematically and spiritually, et cetera. So it's kinda like metaphysically really. But yeah, certainly the, the feminine.

hold that power without the [: 00:25:00

You know, the king can only move one square at a time and needs the queen's protection, but it is the queen's duty to protect the king at all costs. Which is why when they are unified, they are an awesome team.

Obviously the union of the equal and the opposite within, that's that alchemical thing again, very difficult for the masculine to embody his feminine without, losing the polarity of the masculine. I think when men do become, when they start, it's called the return of the king.

Ultimately, you know, it's in our, you know, middle earth, you know, a Lord of the Rings the Lord of Rings is Saturn. It's time. It's the return of the king that will finish the game because it's the return of the masculine balanced in his polar opposite feminine, ready to protect the feminine, not get defensive, not point, not project.

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Women are the portals. We are the dark, dark, primordial, chaos. We are the creators and givers of life. It is women. And it was nicely eradicated, wasn't it? So this is why we've got the father, son, and. Ghost Holy Ghost. Ghost. Holy Ghost. Holy Ghost. So who's the Holy Ghost woman? Woo. So, you know, going full circle on, on your question. Yes, certainly. I know right In the beginning when I was torn up and down like a lunatic teaching people about, you know, the legal and financial system, it was women and it still is, but there were a lot of men rising. But the, they're still in that they're going out to battle something energy, which again, is not a, it's a good energy.

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And just to give you a little bit of a clue, it isn't, it has nothing to do with, to provide for my family to make sure that my family's okay to make sure I've got food on the table. That is a given. Everybody is here to look after their friends and family and offspring. Right? That's, that is not your sole mission.

That's what everyone has to do. And it also isn't to be here to be a good person. Everybody has that responsibility to help nature everyone. What is your specific soul mission? And I think what I'm gonna find is there's gonna be way more women who's gonna be able to, A, understand this concept and B, be able to define it in some way.

And that is what we're [: 00:28:00

And if you don't know, that's what you need to find out and you need to go. You don't just go to somebody and say, Hey, what's my sole mission? You've gotta strip away all that noise. Go within, work out how to do that without being airy fairy five D rainbows, unicorns, blah, blah. Because there's a lot of that deception.

Find your true people who can guide you. 'cause no one can do it for you and you have to do it. And so just want to, let's just have a quick clarity check. I mean, Kali, correct here. Or we're gonna get loads of mango. I know what mine is, blah, blah because it's this, that and the other. Or is it gonna be mainly women prove us wrong because we'd love to it.

it. You know, it's like men, [: 00:29:00

The woman is the river itself. But without that containment, the river's a mess. You know? It is balance, isn't it? That's the key word. It's like the force, you know, it's like being a J day. You know, it's, are you going use the force for good? Are you going to use it for bad? And ultimately it is about deprogramming yourself removing yourself from the Yeah.

The, the, the brainwashing, unpicking, all those knots that the system has purposefully tied into you and integrating all those things that you said. But like you say, I know what my mission is. I'm lucky enough to have an awesome astro lady. I only had a session with her on Monday 'cause I was feeling a little bit, at a crossroads trying to decide what I should do.

I know my work now is yes, I, without the law and the backdrop of the legal fiction, I would never have got reigned. Well, maybe I would, there's always different paths on the tree of life to get reigned to where you need to be. But I think I certainly. Chose a long and hard one. But that's my soul all over.

that keep us looped in this [: 00:30:00

And exhaustion, wounding exhaustion. And I've had that all my life for varying reasons, which is why I always have the highest empathy for people who kind of do speak out or do this, do we get it right all the time? I think it does come from a wounded healer kind of archetype not feeling perhaps validated or seen or heard or for whatever reason.

I think, you know, that's how I've kind of worked mine eyes, so now I can kind of stop the loop, but it's, I'm 46, you know, it's like, and I think that's why women, you know, the Crohn's, and I'm not calling myself a crone just yet, but certainly, you know, it is kind of our duty to step into that energy as as, and that's why my work now will certainly, that's, this is what it'll focus on.

are the carbon they want to [: 00:31:00

I think it was, we were sica based entities at first and then now we are carbon based. But the point being with that. Is that, you know, we do have an ability to change our program ultimately, but it is written as I found in, in the Stars themselves. So my pattern was written. Now I've started to be able to observe that pattern and have a high awareness of it.

So I'm not caught in the same reactive loop that I've probably been in since I was in my teens. That program, if I can break it, there is a way out it's interesting as I got to this realization myself, and this is spirit leading me back to Pippa not had a session with her for like a year, and she just said exactly all the same things I was thinking.

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You know, you, you know, Jo, don't you? It'll just keep serving you up the same issue until you've dealt with the thing or the same. It might look like a different face or a different person, but I shouldn't say a person, a man or woman, whatever that trigger is, like you say, to get you to unearth and dig that pattern.

Now, the importance of, and I mean proper astrology, we're not talking reading your star sign in, you know, daily mail or anything like that, but you know, it will tell you and that is so kind of weirdly comforting. Yeah. Resonates. You have to be scared, but I was just like, it's written in my chart. I'm here to do the law.

Yeah. From Rome. I'm here to give it the finger. You know, that's, that's my goal. Now it's interesting that other people's charts, they're just here to experience a quiet life or family life. So we're going, why can't they see it? That's not the role, you know? 'cause they're keeping the balance in the in so that the other members of the family can go and do their thing.

t you need to know what that [: 00:33:00

We do experience a flat earth, everybody, but it's, we're talking about these perspectives. Again, it's neither, it is not a globe. It's not flat. It's a quantum reality made of hydrogen in tetrahedrons on this level. And it depends on how zoomed in you are. These things that we call the stars. 'cause I, it even had some going, yeah, but that's not a star because stars, stars aren't real.

es don't, are not just light.[: 00:34:00

They carry information. And when you're born within this choroidal field that we live on, this where the two vortex fields meet on the plain of inertia, then these different information. Plasma generation kind of sources and where you are within the tural field of the Earth determines what information is gonna go into you.

And that's why your location and the time and the date doesn't matter on the stars. I don't care whether you believe flat Earth is like, or whether it's round, it doesn't matter in this conversation, this is a quantum reality and the staff and their positions are able to kind of show us based on past data and the information, some things about you and, and they're actually disturbingly accurate.

e-program them. If you wanna [: 00:35:00

And they know exactly, so that's why they know how to play the game because they created the game or they were here and of like working with those who have created this game. And the thing that I'm gonna do and say then about as strong astrology is. Now, I believe after 2012, we are no longer in a cycle.

And there's a reason why I think that, so we can look at the last cycles and last astrology, but I don't think the way that this is gonna play out is anything like it has ever happened before. And there are, two timelines that are kind of overlapping at the moment but one's gonna be much faster.

s one of my friends famously [: 00:36:00

it's all things at all times. I think we live in the eye of God. I think Polaris is the eye of God. I think the no celestial pole is the way out. The matrix. The Drake or the serpents, they fell from that point. When you talk about stars you know, stars are linked to the Fallen angels, the watches the serpent priest, kings, black Bility, all these kind of things.

But like the fall of man is like the fall into sin or into linear patriarchal time really. So it's about orientation as well. So the constellation of the Draco, and I've wrote this down so I don't forget, you know, that was the Pole Star and the serpent was the guardian wisdom originally. It, it, it has two sides to it, which is like clear sight stillness balance.

that feminine energy. Again, [: 00:37:00

But it's like, I'm no scientist and I'm no expert on this, and I don't profess to be, but like we've said, it's something as a backdrop to what I am kind of perceived to be more of an expert in. And I don't wanna say I'm an expert in that. It makes you remember, there's something going on with the women where we're just remembering.

I mean, we live on an eyeball. And if you think of an eyeball, it's got a flat plane, it's got the iris, and then it's got a sphere now. That's like a dome, that's like a firmament, isn't it? With the comb underneath. That's the inner earth shambal or whatever you wanna call that now. I think it's spherical like that.

It's got a sphere, protective sphere, but it's flat. So it's both things that, it's all things at all times. So you can guarantee, if you are arguing something like, like I say, such a siop, no one can ever agree was the collective consciousness. The, you know, that we know the argument is one of the, you know, the main things.

this kind of idea of dissent [: 00:38:00

And I always pick him up and if you, you know, please do go check out his work because I will say a lot of his work and I won't be taking any credit for it. It's Steven's. But certainly one of the theories is that these staff thoughts, you'll know more about this than I do, Jo actually somehow through our consciousness reflecting the star, you know, we're creating that.

Canopy, you know, and the staff office is some form of how we project that. That's beyond me, but you could probably tell us more about that energy grid certainly with the timelines, Jo, I've said that there's two things going on when you start to get back into that kind of opening your portals and your gateways, which you are the portal, right?

t. Just, it's cording, isn't [: 00:39:00

And you know, we talk about anticlockwise and clockwise. It depends on your perspective. So if I'm looking here and it's that way, it's clockwise If I look that way, like it's anticlockwise, right? So it depends on how you are viewing something, whether you're looking at, up or down. So when I was talking, I'm always talking from the down perspective and anything organic always goes clockwise, and that is negatively charged.

we are bombarded with things [: 00:40:00

And this is rather than exploding to light. And this is why our, our life is limiting. And it seems that anything coming from the black G Goo, which is the oil of the Earth, that's synthetic, it's created by arcade bacteria. If you do research light, does oil come from fossils? It's what we get taught at school and in movies.

But it isn't what gets taught at the higher levels of university. So like in Russia and particularly the, you know, the Eastern European countries that they are taught that actually it's constantly renewing, which it is. And it's by RK bacteria. Now RK bacteria are 3.5 billion years old and they are synthetic life force species.

nthetic and something that's [: 00:41:00

And there is definitely synthetic matrix grid. 'cause I can see it as a black goo, right? It's actually made on the quantum level of. You know, the wrong kind of spinning charge and our eyes can't tell the difference. It's why when you put a virtual reality headset on and you step out of a lift your body feels that same thing.

It doesn't matter. So when people are going into the astral realm and they're seeing this and they're being shown angels and all these kind of other fake things, they're not real. But what I mean is you can see them, but they're not organic. This is what I was trying to get people to say there is our natural rhythm and natural state and our natural being and they can do and have done an awful lot to disrupt that, right From the fake moon in the sky.

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And there's loads of basically fake animals out there. By the way, there's fak in sex, there's fake, there's that and the other. They're not, they're not organic. They're not from the creator and anything living in harmony with that is there. But there's lots of structures like the pyramids, the tar empire, the churches, they're all to subvert reality.

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So, you know, basically, we were removed from the tree of life, or the stars fell from, you know, the Noles, steel polo, you know, and yeah, Polaris, whatever, ris. I think there was from the studies and the work that we've done with say, like Neil Bentley, et cetera that there was a faction we're all gods really, like all the younger or the lesser gods.

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The Garden of Eden, you know, the, and, and Eden isn't really a place, but it also is, it's Scotland, right? So again, as above, so below, you know, this kind of return, it's not particularly travel. So they built the pyramids. They built empires. They built priesthood hierarchies because that was the ritual resurrection of trying to return back.

To source. Now they're cut off from source 'cause that's the path they chose or came down to be as negative as possible, but to show us what we are, not, whatever that is. But that poll can't be restored outside because they can't integrate. They can't alchemize. Yeah, we can. They can't. So they wanna keep us here, you know, and again, it's this idea of Polaris.

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I mean, what next? I mean, it's bullshit. And without this feminine masculine return without the water and the fire, the body and the mind, the Magdalene and the Christ, the equal and the opposite, the CAS and the cpu, what, however you wanna say it, no one's going anywhere.

You know, certainly not as a collective anyway. If you can alchemize that individually, you know. Who knows what's gonna happen. I'm with you, Jol. I think we're at a very, and I think again, we can get into that movement of our son and Sirius that's got something to do with it. And again, I'm no expert on these.

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Love, you know, what's up? Are you now? It's all that kind of stuff. When women should be raging and it's the rage of woman, I believe that can destroy the matrix. 'cause the matrix needs order. It's even on the dollar bill and it order through chaos. All this, all that. Because it needs that to survive. Now the antithesis to that is woman.

Which is why they want shut of us, you know? And again, it goes back to the fall of even to over emotion in Hades when we need to move to the higher mind and alchemize and, and unify within. So I think there is like, I don't know whether it is a game, I don't know you, I think one thing I do know is that I don't know anything and it's so hilarious when people speak with such authority.

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That's why they invert, you know, back to transgenderism. That's why, you know, 'cause what they're trying to do is that image of the woman with the breast, but the penis. That's their ultimate androgyn. 'cause the fall of these entities, they worship the androgyn 'cause that's, that was the union of the feminine and the masculine in, you know, spiritual kind of ethereal form.

So the fall separated masculine and feminine. So you've got to integrate it within positively and then come as king and queens together. But for them, they can't do that. So they trying to encourage people to chop their dicks off and become women because they, again, it's in the physical and physical is matter, and matter is time.

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Because they think that somehow the, if, if they'd be as awful as they possibly can, they'll bring out like the tribulation in a sait kind of way. You know, we'll be as awful as we can in the return of the Christ or the Kristos, which I believe is us. Mm-hmm. As well as a man. 'cause it's all things at all times.

I'm banging on a bit now, of course. But that, that's why they are so hell bent on us, all mutilating each other at this point, because that's not, they can't do it Alchemically. Mm-hmm. They've gotta do it in the physical and it don't work. 'cause, but what they can do then is they, I think they, they reset time.

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But again, people may listen to this and go, this woman is whack and I'm alright with that. So I think certainly based on the last, you know, 24,000 cycle as it was, that that's definitely was gonna happen. It's not gonna happen. Now we, we are in a completely different timeline.

But although, and what they're trying to do is they're trying to get us anchor to anchor into their timeline because we are the creators, as you rightly point out, and you can tell we're, we're getting out of the control because so many of, like the kids being born now are being born back with their memories rather than being trapped into that soul tr soul matrix, trap matrix and the whole point of like.

Puppet show, the Moppet show I like to call with Trump and all that kind of stuff is because they knew all, all this time was was going on. They're trying to control the narrative to say, look, we are actually making this happen. It's like, you made it happen. You're part of the guys that made it happen.

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And if you don't know what one looks, who's your favorite lizard is my, who's the one that JD V. Who's the JD V. You can, I know the name. I think he's not the vice president of Lee. I dunno. I just saw a picture of this guy. I've only just been able to see it this year and how can I see it? Am I magical? No.

I stripped away all the scales from my eyes. That's how you do it. And so I really, while you were listening to what Kali was saying, it was really brilliant what you're saying. And I want you to just, I really wanna try and create some solutions here to get people critically thinking about where they need to go.

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So you can point again. Well, I haven't ated children and I went to a protest. I don't care. It's happening to you. Inside your body. And if you are not aware of it, you can't change. You can't go and go and whatever it is, stop and do with whatever they're doing. You can send a load of memes on Facebook and talk about it, but you know what you need to do?

You need to sort you out. And this is the thing, everything that you see on the outside is a reflection of what's going on in the inside and the quicker that we can, the reason why you saw this whole transcendence office is because inside us there was a mixture of, of these energies and nobody knew what they were supposed to be and because of being poisoned and confused, right?

But that's why you saw it on the outside. That's why you're seeing it being resolved.

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Word of advice? Don't chuck your dick, dick off, dude. Right? It's that thing in it before anyone starts going, oh, she's transphobic. I I'm not transphobic. If you know, if you are a grown adult and you really do feel that, that's what you wanna do. Good for you. You know? Absolutely a hundred percent both.

You know, when you commit with five year olds, when it's an obvious agenda, when it's actually the religion you know, the bme okay, the bfat was created by El Las Lee. Is it El Las Levi? It's, you know, it's not like that's some kind of, you know, huge kind of decoded image from the stars or anything.

But it represents, you know, that union of opposites, what the craving to be again, but they can't get out through the tree of life. And again, like you said, it, it, it, it's all astro theological for me, anatomical and allegorical. That's what scripture is. We utilize the King James version, king Jay's Bible in legal terms because God trumps the devil.

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It's a, it's a tax system. So an annuity is basically, you know, the Jesus figure, or yes, you were, or whatever. Who knows what he was called or rep. You know that what that character represents. We know what it represents. That ascension of self and mind and body and spirit and the rest he achieved it for.

I'm the light and I'm the way. But he achieved it with Mary Magdalene. So she got wrote out and called a prostitute, not that hooker. But, you know, the Magdalene allowed or facilitated in that divine union of them both. For him to be able to reach that state. He couldn't have reached that without the feminine.

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So they want us like, you know, join this extra layer of, of dreaming really, and to forget who we are to, you know, forget that kind of narciss. So like I say, I, I haven't got a problem with transgender people all, but when it, when, when they're trying to get five year olds saying that the gender confused, that's just evil.

So I will call that out and I'll battle Rome to death on that. All religions, as we know are complete constructs. Islam the worst. Sorry. It's out there because it's a constructed religion. It was constructed by the tribe of dam. That's why you get rap, ma dan rap means the ma is mother of dam, the mother of Dan, the head of the serpent, the head of the hydro.

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Religion comes from the Latin reli to hold back, to thwart, to bind. It's all crap. You know, you all argue stuff. That's all incorrect. Yes. So again, go knock yourselves out with that. You'll do it for eternity. Yeah. And really as the Christoff Isles, the return of the Christ Isles and the return of that Christ.

But I also believe. That it, man, it can manifest because our collective consciousness is that powerful as the individual also. Hence why, you know, you, you, you, you know, you get deep dive in this thing. The, the, the more you see it and it's in all the codes and ordinances in that system, yeah. You just, you just become more peaceful with it because.

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In fact, I'm insulting you all probably in that sense. Yes. It's not my intention. But it's, it's a fact of the case when you research the origins of all this. Malarkey. Yeah. You know, you all, you've all, we've all been played. Can we just put the swords down and the knives and we, we have all been played.

Let's all put the swords and the knives down on, on all sides. And this is what they get us to do. They, they, they get us to fight for these. And it's all planned, isn't it? This, this whole like different religious things and because by the way, this, this whole kind of grooming has been going on for a long, long time.

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It's like, do you not know who they are? Everybody, they literally, crushed the consciousness and conquered these indigenous people. That was when we were kind of wiped out in terms of our spirituality. Everybody, I mean, they're not the good guys.

But it depends on how far you go. And I think what's happened is these time loops have been played again and again, and people feel very strongly like a lot of people are connected to Rome, the Romans and things like that. There's even a thing about talking about Rome, but it is because you've existed in many different timelines.

Most people from, from the regions that Kelly's done, most people on earth have existed for, have had like eight, 900 lifetimes on earth. Right? And that's what you come back with. So. You can spend your whole lifetime looking at your whole past lifetimes. What's the point? The point is, you're supposed to be doing something now, right?

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This is where my like, you know, dark feminine comes in, we have to do some stuff, and it starts within. And until you can see things, how, as they are, you're just gonna read and go. That's interesting because it will be interesting guys, because you've lived those lifetimes. It'll be in, all of it will be interesting.

What are you gonna do?

No. Well, it we have be, don't we? You know, because unfortunately that, you know, oh I'm offended, you know, this, this kind of war brigade, you know, it's like, well, tough shit. Offended, you know? You doing weird shit to five year olds. I haven't got fucking time for you. It's like judges, courts, like, you know, the corruption and you know, we've just indicted, well, you know, the realm of England and Robin Hood.

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you know, we, we've just thought that this is real. Right. And I'm not saying that it, of course it kind of is, you know, we're experiencing it as you said earlier, you are way better on the science than me, Dr. Jol. But I get it in that sense.

But it is hard for people to deconstruct that and, you know, there's that absolute classic, cognitive dissonance and that hive mind thinking, hence why did they put a bee all over Manchester after that bombing? Because we know that was an orchestrated event. And if you think that were real, that Ariana Grande Malarkey and Ariana Grande is a dude.

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I mean, there's, there's no way, you know, they, we know they're putting all the fighting age up in the hotels and, you know, we know that this is true. But again, what an app, you know, I feel sorry for the people who've been dragged over to do that as well. You know, there's a bit of an emphasis Yeah. The window in fear, because there's like a mob outside, you know, so you've gotta, as a collection, start looking up who's doing this, and we know this, but trying to get that down onto the streets, into, you know, you know, I, I, I desper, I mean, initially it was all about let's get them realizing, no, get them like the, you know, an experiment, but get them hours away from the beginning.

So it's like, well. You know, how do we can't just when we get through the COVID nonsense or whatever, I shouldn't say that must bebby nonsense, then they'll bring something else up that's even more divisive. Yeah. Something else that's divide, divide, divide, problem, reaction, solution, problem, reaction, solution.

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But like I said, in the film script, in the film meal, you join in, it's your name on the credits as well. We've gotta write, we've gotta turn away from it and write our own scripts and get our own scripts overlay, you know, the organic, the natural, God's law. And that's the same in the legal system.

There's God's law or there's legal, there's lawful or legal and they have a spiritual base because Jesus. Jesus, whatever you wanna call him, he died on the cross for our sins. You know, the cross is the trustee, he's already paid the debt. We are the beneficiaries. But because we keep repaying re means again on your mortgages, your credit cards, we are the creditors, but we've forgot.

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You're a slave on a ship. That's the P in your passport purse, P on. And they'll send you back into help and you'll recycle and the whole thing will go again. But like you say, I'm more interested in what you kind of have to say about that. 'cause like you say, if there isn't this kind of gonna be this repeat of this timeline, if we're on a better timeline, that makes me more hopeful Jock, because I'm the look at the, I think, yeah, we're winning and then sometimes I go, oh governor, we're not retreat.

It's bad, it's bad retreat. You know, when I go into like normally land for want of a far better saying than that, but I do burn. Well, I, I'm completely sure that, that we're not and it won't be in any books and I'll explain why, but I think we should do it on the next episode because this is a long story.

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So it's much more, it's much more interesting than that. And hopefully that might inspire some people to, to look within. So what do you think we should live it till next time or we'll go into that and Sirius and Polaris and Yeah. Yeah, definitely. I think we should, you know, gotta leave it on a cliffhanger, aren't we?

If, if, if there's an answer, I'm, I'm all, I'm all about those. I suppose. Like you say, I think we, all, the answers are within us, but it will. I suppose express itself in our creative kind of outlets in, in completely different ways. And, and that's all. Okay. You know, there, there's no argument for me.

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But I was laugh saying her, where did the apple get lodged? In whose throat? How do we know it was woman that created the fall? You know, because. Why does Adam have an apple stuck in his throat? You know, I think men did it and blamed us, you know, so I think, I think Adam probably thought, fuck that I'm having that apple.

And then, you know, oh, she did it. You know, it would kind, it's just, it could very well be. So guys, you have your comment here. What do you think, which, which si I'll tell you what would be interesting for those just as we round this off. What cycles are you currently going round in? If you look back on your life, what has happened to you again and again and again?

matrix is a very real thing [: 01:05:00

'cause I hate to tell you this. Your personality. We're not born with it. It's your program. And if you like some bits of it, keep it. If you don't like some bits of it, stop doing it. But you have to be consciously aware of it. And that takes some self reflection. It takes some time away from wifi. Takes some time, time in nature.

And it takes, you know, time for you to forgive yourself. If you're feeling these triggers, oh my God, I've been like a dickhead, repetitively, or whatever it is. You have to feel that and go, actually, I forgive myself. If you don't get over it, you can't bury it. It's gonna keep coming up. And again, and we want fewer dickheads in the world, don't we?

Yeah. So if that's you, great. But if you're a wonderful person and you keep doing this on repeat, brilliant crack on. We want more of you. So I think we're gonna talk more about it next time. It's been a fascinating conversation. So thank you very much for coming on.

nd origins as well. That was [: 01:06:00

And again, you know, study the legal fiction, study the death English language and the code will reveal itself. Brilliant. Thank you very much everybody. You've been listening to the Crystal Water Experience Podcast, where I bring on the subject matter expert and we talk about all things not mainstream to really tickle your pineal gland and get you guys thinking.

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